You're right. The thing isn't that for one person to say what's right or what's wrong. The point is to open up a true dialog about it. One of the problems I have about is when religion becomes a proxy war of sorts about morality.

I don't like proxy wars in any form.

Now, I actually DO have a definition of "right and wrong". It's something I developed over a lot of thinking and reading and discussing. It's a forumla of sorts. But it doesn't tell us what is right or wrong, but what it does is provides a framework for open discussion.

Morality of an action=The effects on other people modified by intentions.

Pretty simple huh? And it's not intended to tell people exactly what to do, but how to think about what they do. And that's the key word. Think.

Now, we can discuss the effects of an action and the intentions all night. And that's the point. We're supposed to do that. I thought that Obama had several chances to do what he did in his DNC speech and get down and dirty into morality, and he really backed away from it at every turn.

Which really disappoints me because I had him pegged as a leader.