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  • Spare me the lecture. (1+ / 0-)

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    Delia

    Joe - since we're apparently on a first-name basis now - I'm happy to be proven wrong on Tony's role in this story. But I find it a little odd that the same criticism of Romney has cycled through at least three media iterations with no reference to previous reporting. That might not indicate a conspiracy, but the alternative is that the Christian Right is so ingrown or conformist that it has trouble thinking critically about what's been reported to them. I'm not sure that's where you'd like to go with that.

    I've also never known the FRC to sit passively when you thought you had a story to push. Half the press releases I see from you all are about obscure controversies nobody's ever heard of. Since Romney's connection to the Marriotts has been known for some time, it seems logical to assume that his connection to the porn in their hotels would have been known as well, and thus that the critique would have been made by this point.

    That's backed up by the fact that Romney addressed Regent University at the beginning of May. If you didn't pick up on the story at that point - or haven't talked to Phil Burress in the meantime - then what the hell have you been doing?

    Don't tell me Burress operates without coordination - he led the effort to push hotels to drop porn channels last year - an effort that included the FRC. If your boss didn't know that his partner in activism had issued a major-league slam of Romney, he should have. And if he didn't want to pile on, he should have specifically mentioned that he wasn't being critical of Romney in particular.

    So either you missed the story and are now getting caught with your pants down, or you've known the story and held back on making the criticism of Marriott until an opportune time.

    And last, I can't help pointing out that you're one of the founders of Blogs for Fred, so you're hardly a neutral observer in this situation. Or is it just naive of me to notice that, too?

    • Hark! (0 / 0)

      < crickets! >

      (Bets?)

      The light is at home in the darkness. -- Parmenides

      by ogre on Sat Jul 07, 2007 at 11:23:41 PM PDT

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    • What's the Point of This Post? (0 / 0)

      To be honest, Dan, I'm still unclear about the point of your rambling post. Are you a Romney fan and are peeved because Religious Right leaders are not supporting him?
      Do you own stock in Marriott? Or is it just that you have a knee-jerk reaction that causes you to criticize conservative Christians for anything they do?

      You say we've either "missed the story and are now getting caught with your pants down or you've known the story and held back on making the criticism of Marriott until an opportune time." What story? FRC has targeted OnCommand and LodgeNet, the providers of the porn to hotels. But as Tony notes--after he is asked to comment--the hotels themselves are not blameless.

      You also have pick a side. You can't criticize us for both ignoring the story and making a big deal of it. Your arguments is getting downright silly.

      And as far as my position, yes, I support Fred Thompson. So what? Does that mean I've "decided to stick a shiv in Romney's campaign"? No. It means I support Fred Thompson.

      Also, if Tony wanted to go after Romney he'd do it head-on, as he has done with Giuliani. Why would he do is subtly, not even mentioning his name?

      Seriously, leave the conspiracy stuff to the real nutcases over on Kos' main page. It is unbecoming of a Christian.

      • I don't know about conspiracies, but . . . (1+ / 0-)

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        . . . as an ex-Mormon, I participated on the ex-mo online boards a number of years back, and believe me, the connection between the Marriott and pornography is well-known there, and the exquisite hypocrisy of being able to find your Book of Mormon in the nightstand drawer and and dial up a porn flick at the same time draws no end of derision in those parts.

        I've lost the need to go to those sites, and, not being from Massachusetts, I had no need to know of the Romney connection.  But the same thing applies to Mitt as applies to all these other very public political Christians.  When you break down the wall between Church and state, you run the risk of a fatal case of hypocrisy.

        There is a crack, a crack in everything That's how the light gets in. --Leonard Cohen

        by Delia on Sun Jul 08, 2007 at 03:21:24 PM PDT

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      • What is Fred Thompson's view on (4+ / 0-)

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        hotel pornography?  Does he have a position?

        Ad hominem references to so-called "real nutcases" on another blog is a) not in aid of anything b) lazy, ineffective advocacy and c) rude.

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