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Religion and Politics News Roundup

Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:27:47 AM PDT

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Topics for today: Barack Obama's Christianity, Conservative Christian opposition to public schooling in California, Illinois's moment of silence, and Amy Sullivan's new book...

This Just In: Barack Obama Still Christian!

The media continues to hammer away at the non-question of Barack Obama's religious affiliation, and media monitoring groups are taking notice.  Media Matters features excerpts from 60 Minutes interview with Hillary Clinton: (more after the fold)
   

KROFT: You don't believe that Senator Obama is a Muslim?

CLINTON: Of course not. I mean, that's -- you know, there is no basis for that. You know, I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to doubt that.

KROFT: And you said you'd take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a Muslim.

CLINTON: Right. Right.
   
KROFT: You don't believe that he's a Muslim --
   
CLINTON: No. No. Why would I? There's no --
   
KROFT: -- or implying, right?
   
CLINTON: No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.
   
KROFT: It's just scurrilous --
   
CLINTON: Look, I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors. I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets, you know, smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time.

Kroft won't actually say that Barack Obama is Muslim (he's not). Instead, Kroft implies that for some reason Clinton may doubt Obama's veracity (she doesn't).

Get Religion sums up the media's approach:

One story that continues to follow the Obama campaign is the false rumors that he is not a Christian. To write about this, reporters have latched on to Obama’s statements that he is a Christian, and followed that with the false rumors that he is a Muslim. The other angle of this story is that many voters seem to be confused (or don’t care) about the status of this charismatic politician’s personal faith.

I hope it's "don't care." It's hard to understand how this story has legs. Is he a Christian? Yes. Case closed, people.

But, in case anyone is still paying attention, the Associated Press interviews Obama's Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Obama on the family's religious history (hat tip to Pew Forum):

Obama's grandfather had converted to Islam from Roman Catholicism and taken the name Hussein, Sarah Obama said, but his children had inherited only the name, not the religion. Each person should be able to choose how they worshipped, she said.

"In the world of today, children have different religions from their parents," she said. She, too, is a Christian.

Sometimes people choose a different religion than that of their relatives. Wow, that explains a lot. Let's move on now.

More Conservative Christian Opposition to Public Schooling

Cal Thomas at The Washington Times, a conservative media outlet, reports on Exodus Mandate, a conservative Christian initiative to withdraw children from the California public school system.

The catalyst? The government's decision to protect students from discrimination.

The final straw for some was the decision last fall by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to sign SB 777...SB 777, or the California Student Civil Rights Act, requires "nondiscrimination" against sexual orientation, as well as other characteristics.

Obviously, Thomas feels that the failure of the school system to shame and oppress GLBT students has serious repercussions:

The tragedy is that too many conservative Christian, Republican parents who want their children to have a different worldview — their own — willingly participate in the destruction of their children's minds by turning them over to a way of thinking that is antithetical to their beliefs.

Let me get this straight. Some (GBLT) students need to be discriminated against for others  (conservative Christians) to receive a quality education?

Good News for the Separation of Church and State

In more public schooling news, the Illinois House of Representatives passed new legislation to undo its earlier legislation, which had mandated a moment of silence and/or prayer in the state's public schools. From the Chicago Tribune (Again via Pew Forum -- I love that site!) :

Most legislators thought it was a terrific idea last fall when they required students in Illinois schools to have a moment of silence to pray or reflect, but House lawmakers now think they could have used a few more moments for reflection themselves before they put the law in place.

The House voted Tuesday to reverse the requirement after getting an earful of complaints from school administrators and teacher unions who found the requirement poorly thought out and unenforceable.

Concern about lawsuits may also have contributed to the House's turnabout, as noted later in the article.

Amy Sullivan's New Book

Diane Winston at Religion Dispatches effusively recommends Sullivan's new book, The Party Faithful: How and Why Democrats are Closing the God Gap. Winston writes:

The Party Faithful, Amy Sullivan’s new book is a must-read for academics, journalists and just about anyone interested in the recent entwining of American politics and religion. In lucid, elegant prose, Sullivan explains where we are today (or were pre-2008) with Republicans claiming to be God’s Own Party while atheists, secular humanists and other others found safe haven in the Democratic party.

Ok, Winston. You won me over and I ordered my copy today!


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  • Really? (5+ / 0-)

    recent entwining of American politics and religion

    two hundred years is recent?

  • Something I've always found curious (6+ / 0-)

    I've noticed that in every conversation regardig Obama's faith nobody ever says, "what if he is Muslim?"  I think it is more telling that everyone is so quick to point out that Obama is a Christian rather than acknowledge the fact that non-Christians need not apply for the job of President...which is why that "smear" works.  It reminds me of how the GOP made "liberal" a bad word.  Now it's "Muslim"
     
    I wonder if we insult our Muslim brothers and sisters with such rapid denial of their faith and such focus on assuring folks that Obama is a Christian.
    Have we already discussed this and I've missed it?

    • Re: Something I've always found curious (4+ / 0-)

      I very much agree that religious liberals should be opposing the dangerous trend of anti-Muslim prejudice in America.

      But it's not clear to me that saying "what if Obama were Muslim?" is the best way to do that.

      The media frenzy over Obama's religion could be further inflaming anti-Muslim prejudice. The implied message from the media is "we better root out Obama's possible connections with Islam, because if he were Muslim, that would be a terrible thing." For that reason, I think it may be better to push back against this media coverage by reminding Americans again and again that it is totally without substance. In short, "Obama is not Muslim, this story is more about the media's own crazy obsession with Islam, let's end it now."

      I also suspect there may be an element of racial prejudice here (although I'm not certain). I can't help wonder, why is the media having such a hard time accepting that Obama is a Christian? I don't remember any "is Joe Lieberman really Jewish?" controversy, nor can I remember the last time a Christian candidate who has been attending the same church for approximately twenty years was accused of misrepresenting his or her religious affiliation. At the very least, it's incredibly disrespectful to insist over and over that Obama cannot really be Christian, and it's blatantly deceptive reporting.

      Rather than asking "what if Barack Obama was Muslim?" (which plays into the media hysteria), I believe an effective way for religious progressives to fight back against anti-Muslim prejudice is to repeatedly affirm the civil rights of Muslim Americans and to support progressive Muslim American candidates for public office.

      • We agree (2+ / 0-)

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        and to your point...A woman recently called me (here in Georgia-go figure) and told me she was worried that Obama was "secretly Muslim".  I #%&* you not.  While I was busy trying to regain composure (that kind of #%$* makes me giggle) she got angry and informed me that:
        "there was a black man in a little town in Southern Georgia who acted all Christian, but when he became mayor, it all came out.  He was really a Muslim but pretended to be Christian for many years just to be mayor!"
        So, yes, there is a racial element here to say the very least.
        As an aside, next time I have a great product idea/invention, I'll dispense with wondering "who would I sell this to?"  The answer is in my own backyard.

      • media is about message - not facts (0 / 0)

        I can't help wonder, why is the media having such a hard time accepting that Obama is a Christian?

        Why would they accept that Obama is a Christian? They have a message to distribute which concerns Muslims and fear mongering about a black man.  IMHO, the media wants to portray Obama in a certain way. CM (Corporate Media) does not seem to care if the information is accurate.  Accuracy is not the point.  They have a message to distribute.

        But, they can not blatantly lie either. Therefore, they have to imply that Obama might not be a Christian. Thanks for the 60 minutes interview clip, it is a perfect example and truly insulting to everyone. First, it repeated false information about Obama. Secondly, Kroft attempts to make HC look like the stereotypical "dumb female" for not believing their attempted slim.  HC looks good instead. In the end, Kroft looked stupid too.
        Frankly, sometimes you just have to laugh.

        • Re: media is about message - not facts (0 / 0)

          "In the end, Kroft looked stupid too. Frankly, sometimes you just have to laugh." Yeah, when I first read that 60 Minutes excerpt I wondered how Hillary sat through this with a straight face, it's so absurd.

          But a lot of people aren't listening that closely for nuance when they're watching the news, and so strongly implying that Obama is not Christian (even though there's no evidence to suggest this) can be nearly as effective as saying it outright. As you note, journalists on mainstream TV usually won't blatantly lie, but some of them come right up to the line.

  • Bashing the media has always been fun (5+ / 0-)

    and they've certainly never given us too little to poke fun at -- it's our most popular sport, surpassing even NASCAR.

    But today's media go to far.

    The growing weight of irresponsibility, ignorance, incompetence, irrelevance and just plan irritating idiocy has begun to crush me.  And it hurts me, because I've been a journalist of one sort or another since college days.

    Latest example:  On the most recent election night, CNN had its cadre of talking heads speculating on what it all means.  One of them (don't recall his name) was asked what is more important -- the fact that Clinton won the votes or that Obama won the delegates, since it's the delegates that determine the nominee.  His reply was that he owns several newspapers and he knows that the headline will be "Hillary wins the votes" because that's what sells newspapers.  A headline about Obama winning the delegates would not sell newspapers, so it won't be written.  And that, he said, is what's important.

    Get that?  What is important in an American election is what best helps the media make money.  Doesn't that fall under the heading of "damn near treason"?  Screw the nation, just so long as I make a buck!  Sick, sick, sick.

    In my news roundup tomorrow, I'm going to include a link to the outrage of one of CNN's marquee talking news heads proclaiming Cindy McCain "perfect."  Wow, talk about your journalistic integrity, objectivity, fairness and balance!  (Not to mention she was a drug-addicted adulteress, which kinda sorta cuts into the whole "perfection" thing.)  And can you imagine what would happen if he'd said that about Michelle Obama?  Yikes!  The holy Hell the wingnuts would raise!  Sick, sick, sick.

    • They should have said that about Michelle (4+ / 0-)

      That comment speaks to the value placed on women in our American culture.  Cindy looks like a beautiful Barbie Doll.  Michelle has an enviable education and professional background.  But what standard gets trotted out by CNN?  Style or substance?
      It also suggests that our standard of beauty is still limited to the old-fashioned 1950's Barbie doll standard.  
      That sounds like a double-headed Wanker du Jour.

      • Since when does the First Lady need to be perfect (4+ / 0-)

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        lam2b2g, shakti, vgranucci, Jeff Fairchild

        I too admire Michelle Obama's professional accomplishments; thank you for highlighting them lam2b2g.

        But I think we need to get past comparing any potential first lady to a standard of perfection. No person is perfect and the expectation of perfection is so frequently used to denigrate women.

        It's unkind and irrelevant to describe Cindy McCain as an "adulteress" for her decision almost thirty years ago to start a relationship with McCain. We shouldn't get into the mire of critiquing the sexual histories of any of the candidates' partners, even the Republicans ;)

        • I used to say (2+ / 0-)

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          "We should vote for a First Lady and let her husband pretend to run things as President."

          Unfortunately (for my stupid wit's sake) Bill Clinton is ruining that line.  But, I think for the sake of fairness, he should have to wear heels and a dress slit up to his thing.

        • I guess we differ. (2+ / 0-)

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          I was making the point that none of us is "perfect," and I do think that the decision to enter into a romantic relationship with someone who is already married to another, as well as using your husband's stature in the government to feed your drug addiction, are indeed relevant examples of imperfection.  So relevant, in fact, that they make mockery of Anderson Cooper's remark and demonstrate in just how many ways it was inappropriate.

          For one thing, they demonstrate the absurdity of his basis for proclaiming her "perfect" -- her appearance.  As other comments have noted, this is the definition of shallow.  He's not basing his assessment on personal or professional accomplishments.  Nor is he basing it on apparent character traits or morality.

          Compounding the offensive superficiality is his Barbie Doll Bigotry.  I get to see, up close and personal,  the painful effects of this cultural prejudice regarding physical beauty, because I have three daughters -- one of whom is a beautiful black girl and two of whom fit the Barbie Doll mold -- and I see how differently the world treats them.  It's heartbreaking.

          I'll make a deal:  I they quit making claims to perfection, I'll quit pointing out personal imperfections to reveal their folly.

          Policy imperfections, however, are open game!  ;-)

          • There are some things we agree on too... (2+ / 0-)

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            shakti, Aunt Em

            ...like that glorifying Cindy McCain because of her appearance, with the flip side that less stereotypically pretty female political figures are often harshly derided, is harmful. I still remember when the media harshly criticized Chelsea Clinton (when she was about 13!) for her appearance. The unearned praise and the brutal scorn directed towards women based on appearance are two sides of the same coin. And, as you note, it's a threat to well-being of women and girls.

          • Yep (2+ / 0-)

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            shakti, Aunt Em

            Two wankers for the price of one.
            Each one damaging to our daughters; and the effect in tandem is exponential.

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