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Saturday Coffee:  Incredible Migrating Food

Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 08:37:50 AM PDT

I tried a new-to-me dish a little while ago, Chicken Country Captain, that was surprisingly good.  Supposedly it's a classic of Southern cuisine (chicken parts simmered in a sauce of tomatoes, onions, garlic, curry powder, and raisins) but there's something so unmistakably Indian about its taste that I had to do some investigating....

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I did a little digging, and it turns out it's believed to have been brought to the South by an English sea captain who had previously been living in India.  Hence the cross-pollination.

But it reminded me of other things I've heard about.  The typical Mexican tamale is a popular soul food dish in the rural Mississippi delta, and usually eaten with saltines.  In Wisconsin, there's "Chicken Booyah," which is stirred up by the descendants of Belgian immigrants.  A British-style pasty (pronounced "pass-tee") can be found in Michigan.  And a popular snack item in the West Virginia mountains (and sometimes in far western Maryland) is the pepperoni roll, a bread roll stuffed with sliced pepperoni and cheese, a culinary hand-me-down from Italian immigrants who came to work the mines.

Of course, the opposite can be true.  General Tso's Chicken, a popular item on Chinese restaurant menus, is the invention of Taiwanese immigrants to America.  And Chicken Divan, thought to be French, was the creation of an American French restaurant, New York's long-gone Divan Parisien.

Have you ever thought to wonder about the ethnic origins, and wanderings, of the food you eat?  Ever been surprised by something's origin?


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  • Cookie jar! (17+ / 0-)

    Going off to spend the day at a friend's place, watching bad movies and eating good Italian food, so it should be pleasant.

    Here's a recipe...

    CHICKEN COUNTRY CAPTAIN

    1 2 1/2 to 3 lb chicken, cut up
    1/4 cup chopped onion
    1/4 cup chopped green pepper (I dislike green pepper, and used celery instead)
    1 clove garlic, minced
    1 tablespoon butter or oil
    1 14 1/2 can tomatoes, cut up
    1/4 cup snipped parsley
    2 tablespoons raisins
    1 tablespoon fragrant curry powder
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon mace or nutmeg
    1/4 teaspoon sugar
    1/8 teaspoon pepper
    1 tablespoon cornstarch
    2 tablespoons toasted sliced almonds

    In a large skillet, brown the chicken pieces in oil, then set aside and keep warm.  Cook the onion, pepper (or celery) and garlic until tender but not brown.  Remove from heat; stir in undrained tomatoes, parsley, raisins, curry powder and other seasonings.  Bring to a boil.  Add chicken pieces, turning to coat.  Bring to a boil again, then reduce heat, cover, and simmer 35-45 minutes or until chicken is tender and done.  Remove chicken; keep warm.  Skim fat from sauce; mix cornstarch with 1 tablespoon cold water; add to sauce and cook and stir till thickened and bubbly, then for two minutes more.  Spoon over chicken on a serving platter, and sprinkle with almonds.  Serve with rice.

    When I made this, the curry flavor was unmistakable, and it really really tasted more like Indian than Southern....

  • Nope (15+ / 0-)

    Nope, I only eat American Food™:
      Hamburgers (especially with Swiss Cheese),  Frankfurters,
      Pizza,   Pasta,  Tacos,  Teriyaki Chicken Sandwiches,
      Fish & Chips,  Gyros,  Beer
    That sort of thing.  ;-)

  • Jezus, I'm home sick... (12+ / 0-)

    But I just can't make up my mind.

    I gotta run out the door here in a while after I put the dog, Nena, out. She's so good and sweet but funny. She's a stray I took in, about a year old, and can stay inside for two days without going potty anywhere; a stray off the street that's house-broken. The thing is, I live in an apartment that's down some stairs to get to and Nena doesn't do stairs (she doesn't want to leave and go back to the street either). So every day I've got to pick her up and carry her outside and then pick her up and carry her back in later.

    My back's not been all that great so I've got to be careful lifting her since she's so big.

    OK, that's all for now (gotta run).

    Knowing that life is struggle, may peace be with you all knowing you have done what that you can.

    Out.

  • Regional Faire (14+ / 0-)

    When I think of the South ... I think barbeque. I can tell you this:

    In the South, barbeque is a noun.
    "Do you want some more barbeque?"

    In California, barbeque is a verb.
    "I am going to barbeque some tri-tip"

    True barbeque is a noun in my opinion. What we pass for barbeque in California is really grilling.

    Also, in the South, is one of my favorite stews. It is basically barbeque stew with lima beans. It is called Brunswick Stew. (I hope I got that right). Usually, there is okra in Brunswick stew, but Mrs. Wada does not like okra. So, I do not put okra in my Brunswick stew.

    Brunswick Stew

    Of course, there is the perennial California cuisine. A lot of folks say that there is no such thing. I must disagree. We Californians know how to turn dog food into a very fine dining experience. What do you ask is this? Why it is Tri Tip of course! Did you know that the tri tip cut was considered of such poor quality that it got ground up into dog food?

    Yep ... tri-tip ... with a dry rub and grilled over hardwood for about 1 hour
    .
    Tri Tip

    Even though, not from California, most folks think of sushi when they think of the Left Coast. We have tons of high quality sushi restaurants here in the SF Bay area.

    Nigiri
    .
    YUM!
    ... or something like that!

    God's Grace is for Everyone

    by krwada on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 11:50:33 AM PDT

  • They are having a rough go of it. (14+ / 0-)

    The "hat" has been removed. They are working at replacing a fitting that looks sheered off. What you see, other than the top of the BOP flange is the slender socket wrench used to reseat the fitting. So far it has not held.   The people who operate these ROV's have the patience of Job.

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    ---life is fun--play the edges---

    by Dixie Dawg on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 01:20:57 PM PDT

  • Been grilling (13+ / 0-)

    I had some sweet apple "smoked" marinated turkey tenderloins to do on the grill, and while they were  cooking I decided to grill up the rest of the veggies from my weekly CSA share. The turkey tenderloins were really great, and now I have a few lunches ready for work next week, with snack turkey left over.

    It turned out hotter than expected here today, and standing over a hot grill, out in the hot outdoors fairly tired me out. Whew!

    Happy Saturday, everyone!

    When our mind is truly free, we find a wealth of treasure: love, joy, and peace of mind. -Tarthang Tulku

    by shakti on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 01:44:28 PM PDT

  • Just ordered pizza (11+ / 0-)

    have been on the run today and no time to think about other options.  The other options here look great!

    But he was in Turkish costume, and so nobody would believe what he said. Grown-ups are like that . . . Antoine De Saint-Exupery

    by Joanne on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 02:06:51 PM PDT

  • Someone gave us a nice used gas barbeque grill. (11+ / 0-)

    We used it for a couple of years at a few parties we had--Birthdays, Forth of Julys and New Years, until a circle of friends developed that have much better parties.  Although I can, and have been complimented for my cooking a few times, I choose not to cook.  And my wife doesn't like to grill meat, veggies, sea food, or anything really.  However, nothing stops her from making really good cuisine on the stove or in the oven in our kitchen.  So at the parties we had, our son-in-law, who is a line cook, usually did the honors.  I suppose that's not abiding by traditional party rules, but I'm not much into traditions or rules.  It is my experience that Spirit is always in motion, making traditions a misapplication of ideation, and the rules of the moment shifting as Spirit does, makes on one's toes being the only way to stay balanced with and tuned to Spirit.  It's not in writing anywhere, with chapter and verse.  :-)  Given the nature of Spirit, I don't see how it could be.  In any case, I use that as my spiritual reason/excuse for not doing the supposed manly thing of grilling.  

    You guys make that food look and sound real good.  Can almost smell it.  

  • Hubby and I (12+ / 0-)

    love to explore the world through food. We are fond of Mexican, Greek and Italian (any Mediterranean, really) and Asian (he likes Thai but Me, not so much). We can both cook various dishes of these cuisines and even made up a few of our own.

    Tonight we are going out for dinner, though we haven't yet decided where. We got a check from Yahoo for the ad-sharing for our most popular video on You Tube. Wasn't sure about it at first but figured "what the heck?" Sure enough, money has come out of thin air! We get an average of 20-30 cents a day which adds up quickly. Our first check - from Feb. through April - was $149. So we're going out with it.

    Have a lovely weekend, everyone!

    Aia No I Ka Mea E Mele Ana; Let the singer select the song.~~ Hawaiian Proverb

    by Kassandra on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 03:41:29 PM PDT

  • My day (11+ / 0-)

    Actually, I'm going to start with yesterday. I had to give a campfire talk at a state park which features a major cavern complex. The talk last night went well, in spite of mosquitos and wind. Even sold a couple of my books.

    This morning we drove up to the top of the mountain to explore the caverns. High elevation and a long uphill walk to the entrance. Even though it was early morning, it was hot. Then we got to walk down lots of stairs and through lots of neat stuff (and it was cool, in terms of temp). We re-emerged, fortunately at a lower lever which meant a level walk back to the parking lot. Had a great time.

  • Migrating food (10+ / 0-)

    Marco Polo brought pasta from China to Italy, and the rest is history.  Ditto potatoes, a New World food taken back to Europe.

    Growing up in the Bronx, bagels and bialies (short for bialystock) are common fare.  When the movie The Producers came out, it seemed funny to me that a character should be named for a roll.  Imagine my surprise to find that there is a place called Bialystock!  (My neighborhood was from Russia, Poland, and Hungaria and never got more specific than that.  And it took a while in 1956 to realize that Hungary which was in the newspapers was the same place as Hungaria.)

    And then there is the Brandeis story, probably not true, of a couple of students spending the summer in Europe.  After a few weeks in Italy, they got tired of Italian food.  So the went to the Jewish ghetto in whatever city they were in and found a Chinese restaurant.

    When shit happens, you get fertilized.

    by ramara on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 05:17:50 PM PDT

  • I love country captain! (10+ / 0-)

    I've tried two or three different recipes for it -- and used to make it for company.  It is good.

    I may make pasta for dinner tonight -- with assorted veggies in it.  But we'll see.

    I have a diary up over the way -- please check out the coffee cozies!

  • Technical help please? (10+ / 0-)

    I've been trying to figure out how to do the really cool stuff--connect to something on the web to show/inform (you know, like when you have something in blue to take people somewhere else)--but I can't seem to get the technical information on FAQ to come up on my computer.  I'd like to know how to do the cool stuff!

    But he was in Turkish costume, and so nobody would believe what he said. Grown-ups are like that . . . Antoine De Saint-Exupery

    by Joanne on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 05:47:38 PM PDT

    • It's at the bottom of the box... (9+ / 0-)

      ...where you type your comment or diary: the button that says "Link."

      First, select the words you want to use as the link (which will end up shown in blue text). Then, hit the "Link" button. That'll bring up two fields below: "URL" and "Label" ("Label" will show the text you've selected).

      Next just type (or paste in) to the URL field the web address you want to link to, and click "Add."

      HTH. :-)

      There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified, and new prejudices to be opposed. ~Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

      by slksfca on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 05:57:38 PM PDT

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    • Ye olde schule way (6+ / 0-)

      ok ... Shakti is quite correct. As with all things engineering there are other ways to do the same thing.

      Here is a way to link something like ... wikipedia.

      The wikipedia website is:

      http://www.wikipedia.org/

      To do the blue link thingy ... you need to do the following:

      For example, we will use the word "there" as the target:

      To go to wikipedia ... go to there

      To go to wikipedia ... go to <a href = "http://www.wikipedia.org/
      ">there<a>

      .
      ... or do what Shakti says! ... Heh!

      God's Grace is for Everyone

      by krwada on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 11:51:21 PM PDT

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      • Thanks. (6+ / 0-)

        I thought about including that old skool method but decided against it as being redundant and confusing. But then again, as Auntie Mame said (quoting Sir Francis Bacon),

        Mr. Babcock! Knowledge is power!

        ...so you're right to shed additional light on the subject.

        p.s. Maybe we should start calling you "Ken-gineer." ;-)

        p.p.s. Although shakti is often "quite correct," I think you meant me here. ;-)

        There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified, and new prejudices to be opposed. ~Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

        by slksfca on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 07:11:51 AM PDT

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        • Senior moment (5+ / 0-)

          Recommended by:
          Rain, Vagrarian, grada3784, slksfca, Joanne

          Yep ... A senior moment. I meant you slksfca!

          As to my nomme-de-guerre. You can use what Shakti calls me...

          It is woo! Rhymes with boo. Like Wada-woo.

          Actually, this is what the other folks at my itinerant dojo call me. It now happens to stick to me as my nickname ... at the dojo ... and here.

          Heh!

          God's Grace is for Everyone

          by krwada on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 02:34:56 PM PDT

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          • Okay, Wada-woo. (4+ / 0-)

            Recommended by:
            Rain, krwada, grada3784, Joanne

            But in turn please do feel free to call me Scott in return. My username is just too darn clunky, not to mention aesthetically offensive to my highly developed sensibilities. It was an unfortunate lapse of judgment in the first place, and one which I've regretted ever since.:-)

            There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified, and new prejudices to be opposed. ~Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

            by slksfca on Sun Jul 11, 2010 at 04:17:05 PM PDT

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  • I video taped a 3 hour rehearsal ... (9+ / 0-)

    today of Blithe Spirit. I'm making up a directors video for the play. The director was outstanding entertaining and informative.

    Busy day, so much more to do.

    "Upward, not Northward" - Flatland, by EA Abbott

    by linkage on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 06:00:00 PM PDT

  • And Columbus brought both the ... (7+ / 0-)

    ... tomato and the chili pepper back to Europe in 1493.

       Within the year the tomato had made it to Italy, and the chili to India.

       Can you imagine Italian cuisine without the tomato?

       Can you imagine (East) Indian cuisine without curries?

       Today, that kind of nonsense would be stopped by the plant import police at the airport ;-)

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